Kaanti:
Until the real knowledge that God is everywhere is unfolded, it is just a concept.
How can you be influenced by the sense that God is everywhere?
Swami-ji: No matter where a person goes, he doesnt
find anything in his vision other than God. If somebody talks to him and it
goes against his concept or idea, he is affected, but he has already known
that the person couldnt speak to him if God was not within him.
If an apple hanging on a twig of the tree affects him and he wishes to pluck
it, he knows that the apple couldnt have the shape of an apple if God
was not there. If a cat appears before him crying, "Meow, meow, me ow," and
he has some bread in his hand, he knows that the cat cannot cry if God did
not want to eat bread. He knows a person as a person, an apple as an apple,
a cat as a cat. He is not affected by any of them. He is affected by God. He
knows that he is alive because of God and so he is getting affected.
In the Gita and the scriptures, God says, "Whatever is made is made by
Me. Whatever place there is, the place is made by Me. Whenever anybody goes,
the speed and power is made by Me. Whatever one acts, that action is made by
Me."
Everything is made by God.
God alone is.
Without God nothing can happen. But one does not know why he was not knowing
this. When he knows that God alone is [but hasnt grasped it], he thinks
that God wanted him not to know, so he is ok.
Your stronghold of knowledge
Whatever you are affected by, that is your stronghold of knowledge.
Someone may say that their praan is 'here and there.' What saadhana [practice]
will be given to him? Hatha Yog, so that he can check which way his praan is
moving, and then he will reach there, because everything is from there.
Those who are affected by the minds of others are told to go towards gyaan.
Many people are affected when an earthquake comes and buildings and people
are dissolved. We tell them that their path is Pralaya Yog, where
everything is dissolved.
All persons are nothing but the manifest form of the same Being, the same God.
If someone says, "It is the same God, but I am a human being," then
he is recommend to go to a human Guru.
From duality to Oneness
It is the buddhi [intellect] that doesnt understand where action
comes from or where knowledge comes from. Action and knowledge [karm and gyaan]
are what a man is. These two paths are very important. Mostly, man knows action.
Through Gyaan Yog you get to the source of all kinds of gyaan.
Through Karm you get to the Existence from where all actions emanate.
When I say that you reach there, you means man, woman, boy or old man.
You are person whom you call jeevaatma, a part of God. You may not say
God, but you cannot be a person if you dont think, and you cannot think
if you dont have knowledge. You cannot have knowledge if you are not
alive. You cannot have life if your mum and dad are not there, Your mum and
dad cannot be there if their mum and dad were not there. Who created
the first Adam and Eve? There cannot be two persons before them. At that point,
you get to that Oneness.
The main saadhana is how to get your dualistic apparatus and ego sense
dissolved into that which is egolessness, Oneness.
What are you up to? Where are you at?
What is it that you are up to? You are up to transforming the functioning
of your ego. That is all. Transformation means that it should not function
in this, its present way. It should function with devotion where there are
not two realities. It is all God. One doesnt worry that he should become
aware of God. No such sense exists.
Where are you at? You say, "I am here, the world is out there, and God
is certainly out and out there!" This gives you a clue to know who you
are. You can figure out that you are a person who knows these three things.
You grasp, "I am here, the world is there, and God is someone who made
the world." When you are asleep you dont grasp this. When you wake
up you will question, "In deep sleep why dont I know that the world
is out there and I am here?"
Knowledge will come and you will move further.
Move Further
A wood cutter gathered twigs in the forest. One day he met a wise
man. He told him, "Move further." The next day, when the
wood cutter returned to the forest, he remembered that he should mover
further and he found good, thick wood and got more money. The third
day he reached there and again remembered the wise mans words
to mover further, so he moved further. On that day he got a better
findsandalwoodand got more money. The next day he again
came and remembered to move further, so he moved further and found
copper and sold it and was the recipient of more money. He became happy.
Only one thing he came to know: Move further.
The next day he found a silver mine. He collected the silver and sold
it and became richer. The following day he found a gold mine. He collected
some of it. He didnt know what these things were, but he was a
collector and seller. That was his routine. The next day he went and
found jewels. The next day he went further. He became there richest man.
In this way an idiot comes to Guru. Guru tells him, "Amaram Hum
Madhuram Hum." He moves further and further. Second day he moves
further and knows, "This is it!" He got infinite wealth.
Just continue moving further and you will get it. |
The depth and power of understanding
In meditation, the depth and power of understanding lies.
On the surface level you have only these there gunas and nothing else.
If you dont meditate and make your friends meditate and let them move
further, then they will come back. They will say, "I did a three months
course."
I say, "In six months your saadhana will be over."
Somebody should say in your ear that this is your ego, be egoless. But they
say, "I got hurt because a friend said something."
I say, "Move further." The ego is the legs on which you stand. You
have to move in the direction of egolessness. Keep moving and moving and you
become more and more egoless. One day you will become perfectly egoless and
you will have realization of God.
It is most simple to get God realization.
To do other things is very difficult.
When One is Won
Wherever your 'I' arises, put God on it and you become God Consciousness.
Does God get insulted? You will say, "Well, God cannot be insulted. But
I am a little cockroach and get insulted."
In every situation, you have 'I.' When you are travelling, 'I' doesnt
leave you. This is the vehicle. Always put God in it. Have Krishn in your chariot.
You will win and the result will be one [won].
Donkeys never ask questions
We are made as human beings so questions and concerns will come. Donkeys never
ask questions. Even if you compare yourself to animals or a papaya but you
will get such a great joy knowing, "Lord, you made me like this." You
can taste six tastessweet, pungent, bitter, sour, salt, astringent. Donkeys
have only one taste for salt. Nobody gives donkeys dinners.
Remembering is knowing
Bhakti Nath: They say to be free from the duality that the
waking state puts you in, you have to remember God, Aatma, the Self.
I cannot sit and say that I am God every moment. That is not what remembering
can mean. I know that wherever I go I am Canadian, but I am not always consciously
thinking it.
Swami-ji: Why do you interpret remembering as a recollection
of something that you made? Remembering means know. Know that you are
That. You know that you are Canadian. Wherever you go, you are Canadian.
You dont have to' remember.' You dont have to say, "I remember
God." Without God, you cannot exist, therefore why are you not God? The
difficulty arises because of the information that you have been given. People
give you God of the religious brand, as someone sitting in heaven on a chair
with a secretary or accountant who is looking after your good deeds and bad
deeds. If you have done good deeds, you go to heaven. If you have done bad
deeds, you are in the nether land or down below. That is your type of image
of God.
You are wrongly informed of God. This shows that you are wrongly informed of
your own Self, so neither do you know your own Self nor do you know God. You
know bookish knowledge like a learned man from Benares who shouts whatever
he has read and crammed. But you never realize from where you speak the word
'I.'
Check and know that 'I.' When you close the eyes, that gets opened. You know
'I.' So you have already realized that, but you are afraid to call yourself
God or announce that God exists somewhere, so there is no mention of God anywhere.
Religious people are all scientists, but because of business they included
the word God in their teachings. They dont believe in God,
they believe in business because it pays them. If they really believed in God,
they would have become God Realized!
Check. You have faith in your intelligence. How does food turn into blood?
Who does it? You have the knowledge of physical things. How do x-rays scan
your colon? You have lost the thinking apparatus. You may say, "I think.
I think," but you never think. This whole mess is all over the world.
Now the Lord has sent me over here. I knew he was sending me to a mess, so
I told him, "Give me some power."
He said, "What kind of power?"
I said, "To have the sense of accommodation for these people!" I
know that you are totally mistaken, but I cannot tell you this because you
are identified. You think that mistake is a crime because you will have less
status, you will be thrown away. You are afraid to hear the words, 'you are
mistaken.'
So I use a gentle language "You are forever free, but somebody entered
in your head in deep sleep and woke you up in the morning and you forgot that
you are forever free." This language you relish.
Meditation and saadhana work and one day you will come to know that
you were never bound, so what is the use of seeking freedom. Lecture is over.
But you are waiting for something more.
God as concept, God as Space
Bhakti Nath: The use of the word God will create
some concept in my head.
Swami-ji: You have the ability given by God to make this
concept. You dont have to appreciate God. God doesnt need your
appreciation. He knows what He is.
It is as if the space which is sitting in the computer began to identify that
it is the computer chip. What can you do to that space, except keep shouting
so that one day it may evolve a vision, an ear, a heart and will know, "I
am Pure Consciousness. I am Space?" Religious people call it God, but
it is Space.
You ask, "Do you mean formless?"
Yes!
You ask, "Do you mean body-free?"
Yes!
You ask, "Do you mean mind-free?"
Yes!
You ask, "If the body is broken, that Space wont be broken?"
Yes.
You ask, "Is that forever?"
Yes!
You ask, "If it is forever, then it never comes from anywhere?"
Yes!
You ask, "If it has not come from anywhere, then it will never go anywhere?"
Yes!
My 'Yes' and your inquiry meet together and nava-sarjan [new creation]
takes place; a new form of intelligence appears like a flower, like a flame,
like a light, like love. Until then, continue with whatever you know.
Check. When did you start to have a relationship with this body? Your father
dropped a few germs and you are still the same germs that germinated. Why did
you forget the germs? In that germ, life is there. Why are you not life? Why
are you not these bones and skinny body or speaking box or seeing torch? You
began to identify. Cloth was once cotton. Cotton was once a plant, root, and
earth. A tailor made a pooh bear. Now the cloth says, "I am pooh bear." That
is what happened to you.
You say, "I am Bhakti Nath," and Prayma [his wife] accepts this because
she loves pooh bear. She identifies as "my pooh bear." But you were
never in her life. You were playing somewhere and she was playing somewhere
else. When did you begin to say, "My wife," or "My body, the
husband"? That is wrong knowledge. It is a mistaken belief. You want to
make it permanent. Better are those who get married and then divorced. Many
people think that once hooked, hooked forever. Aatma says, "I am
the right hand," and the body says, "I am he left hand." Both
are hooked.
The imperceptible hook
Bhakti Nath: Isnt that hooking imperceptible?
Swami-ji: Yes. Why isnt imperceptible knowledge?
You are oriented to the senses. Beyond the senses, your life doesnt exist.
'Amaram Hum Madhuram Hum' is not your perception. It is beyond indriyaas [senses].
Dream is beyond senses because the senses are lying in the bed. You have not
been trained to recognize that 'That' exists. Better Freud, who made up somethingat
least he recognized something. You dont recognize non-perception. Up
to ego, you can perceive. With some tools you can ultimately perceive up to
quark. Beyond quark you know nothing, but you cannot declare that you are seeing
nothing. You should believe in it. But that nothing doesnt serve your
purpose, because it doesnt give you food, it doesnt give you water.
You refer to nothing as nothing, whereas everything is coming from that nothing!
You began to say, "Amaram Hum Madhuram Hum," knowing that it is the
Self speaking. You are a daring spirit, not that you are a wrestler. Daring
spirit means that you came to know the truth. Abide by the fact that what you
call I cannot be uttered by a table. It can be uttered by a system
which is not an ordinary machine. It is not of iron or steel. It is consciousness.
Knowing that, the job is done.
But you never know the fact of who you are. You are trapped in the machine,
like a spider in the web. Who taught the spider to get caught? Who taught us,
as jeevaatma, to get trapped in the body? Hearing this you get awakened.
A new happening happens. After hearing me, whatever happens is a new one.
You never learned the right things, so change the course of your understanding,
sit in the seat of saadhana, gather friends and say, "Let us consider
who we are." Meet daily and talk about who is talking. Terminate
your session with the answer, "We do not know." You as the chairman
know that they have the answer. The answer they give, "We dont know," is
the right knowledge to the question. It is a wrong question to ask who you
are. Traditionally, to the question, "Who are you?" you will reply, "I
am a chap from Halifax. Who are you? "I am Canadian" Who are you? "I
am Israeli." Then the questions, "What is your name? What is your
family? What do you do? What do you eat?" will arise. You never sit in
the laboratory and check who speaks for thirty years or who listens for thirty
years. Is it electricity? Is that a tape recorder? Is it a television?
You may not get the answer, but you got It. Words dont fit in
with our findings.
Mind is mundane, Self is free
Self is free. Mind and body are just tools. You will be successful if you
know, "Mind never recognizes me, but I never mind. Then you will know
that you are carrying a kind of 'friend' who you never knew, yet who holds
you like a parasite and tells you to do this and do that. Never listen to it.
Those who dont listen to it are saved. But you listen to it daily and
think, "Today I want spaghetti. Tomorrow, cheese. The next day, coconut
cookies." That is mundane, which means the mind [man-mind, dayn-given].
Overcoming raag and dwaysh
Praapti: What is the nature of raag [attraction] and dwaysh [repulsion]
and how do we overcome it?

Swami-ji: [Swamii-ji holds a sheet of blank paper.]
If you have a white piece of paper, it is pure paper. That is me.
[He picks up a yellow flower and holds it up to the paper briefly, then
moves it away.] This flower is seen [by the paper] and is now gone.
In the same way, I am not attached. No raag.
[Swami-ji now rubs the flower on the paper and where he has rubbed, the
paper turns yellow.] This is raag.
[Swami-ji now rubs a red flower on the white paper and a red spot appears.]
You see the red flower again and again. This is raag.
[He picks up a leaf and rubs the paper until there is a faint green smudge]
You see this person, this is less raag.
The colours stay in my heart and mind. If anybody comes and snatches these
colours from me, I will have dwaysh. If somebody is stronger than me
and takes the colours away, I will have a fear. If the person is weaker than
me, I will be angry. I will beat him. Raag, then fear, then anger. If
someone succeeds in taking them away I will have dwaysh and will avenge
and fight.
Raag and dwaysh are spaces. If you are asleep, raag and dwaysh will
not be imprinted. Raag-dwaysh wont happen if you are busy
registering votes and marking the hands of those who have cast their vote.
If you are male and a beautiful young woman comes, you will hold her hand and
miss putting the ink on the right finger. Raag is like an electric shock
that stays. The initial shock is over, but you still look for that beautiful
woman because she is imprinted in your head.
Raag is a colour of the things, forms, and persons who appear to be
likeable; and dwaysh is a colour of those who appear unlikeable
Your question is how to overcome raag-dwaysh when they have taken place
or how to save yourself from them. Know that you are the one who is Pure Consciousness
and are not a coloured umbrella or a fragrant flower or a beautiful person
or a business magnate. You are none of these. Since you know that you are not
a stone, not a table, earth or a tree, you know that you are not a beautiful
male of female. If you have this knowledge, you will not be identified. The
coloured paper becomes identified. White paper is no longer white. It has become
yellow, red, green. That is identification [adhyaas], attachment.
Young people interpret raag as when they begin to love someone. You
dont have raag for your sister. You love her. You have raag when
desire is there. Desire is there when you are not self-sufficient, when you
lack something and you think that a person will fulfil you. Then desire will
come and you want to possess someone. When there are not many persons, even
the worst person becomes likeable. Raag is not outside in a person. Raag is
withinvaasana, kaamanadesire. When desire becomes stronger
and stronger, that is trishna [hankering].
In this way your attachment, your raag develop. Raag is a sense.
If you dont care for this sense and sensible things and you know that
you are the Space, then anything that comes is the Space. White paper will
not have raag for white paper. Raag arises because of the sense
of duality. The sense of duality is your mind or heart. That heart which is
free from all these things is the central heart, Gods heart.
The moment you become a bodya personand have need, raag is
a must. You are taken advantage of and put in a mess, travelling to wrong places. Raag leads
you towards the graveyard.
Many people interpret raag as love or love affairs. Affairs involves
action, and that is raag. To overcome that, be God. God is only knowledge.
Who knows that you have a scarf, you have eyes? This Knower is called God.
It is very close. It is always there. When you look at someone, when you dont
look at someone, the Knower is there. Anything that is touched, tasted or presented,
Knower is always there. Knower is God. The one who knows this is called Guru.
Then we love God which means we love the Knower.
Knower is free from raag and dwaysh. Nothing will happen to the
Knower. But Knower has a writing paper or canvas of mind and on the mind the
forms are printed and then the mind becomes coloured and the Knower identifies
with it and says, "I am coloured." This is attachment you should
not have. Then you will be free.
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